Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Ghengis Khan on Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:52 pm

That is hilarious Gator! December is primetime for those who are actually coaching, wrestling or not on the beach! But then again, what would he know about collegiate, they keep real score during those tournaments. Nobody to hide from then :D Ha! As for your daddy Cozart, it's hard to give praise to a coach of greats who cannot even control his nutbag son. He's your twin in more ways than one. What a duo. In all seriousness, why didn't you stay in Cali, no oil on the beaches down there.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby lilpete on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:12 pm

Take it easy on Steve. He meant well. I think if he had stuck it out, he might have been able to make some noise. I really do. Good luck in Florida Steve. I have a question for Neitenbach since that's what this thread is about. What are you going to do Scott to show people some strength in dealing with Martin and Tony? I think some spine is important on this issue or I wouldn't have spoken up. I've watched for a while and think there are a lot of good points made. I also think the bickering will go away once there is some motion towards a new day in CUSAW. Some of what has been happening is nonsense. But there is some good stuff happening as well. I like to stay positive where we can as a state. So Scott, I know you read this, what do you say?
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby moknows on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:20 am

Why am I subjecting myself to you idiots? Not sure! I have sat back and watched many of you spineless no name posting Scott N a$$ kissers and I am tired of the Babi family taking a thrashing. They have given alot to cusaw. They have spent many of days on the road in meetings for the organization. They have spent their money. Legge you get that motor mouth going along with Billy Gabel. I remember the days when we were all on the board together. You preach doing right for the organization but you don't put up like you ask everyone else. Sit back and learn motormouth. BIlly would get under Mo's skin on purpose. Mo knows business, as does Pat. Leave their family out of this. Look at what they are doing to help. Legge, Gabel, Schunke, Hart, to name a few you all bash and hate on Mo but he is why cusaw is still alive. Scott N is taking the accolades off Mo's hard work. Very pitiful if you ask me.

So my question is quit being cowards and step up like the Babi's.

Go ahead and slam me. The truth hurts!

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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Papa Smurf on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:43 am

Actually Cozart and I tied 2-2 back in the day. You guys are the joke. Lots of good coaches and talent in the state but it is wasted with the same old soap opera year after year. I log on occasionally just to get a laugh. Heck, the Knight boys outscored Colorado at Fargo junior freestyle. Lots of friends and plenty of respect here. Credibility comes from results, not message board talk from anonymous posers. State your name and your coaching credentials and you might actually be taken seriously.

Florida keeps team scores for all freestyle and greco tournaments. They found it really increases interest and participation at local tournaments. We averaged about 300 kids at our four events. Maybe someone on the CUSAW board should pass a resolution to do the same thing. It would help the numbers you are always complaining about. Oh wait, somebody already did that four years ago.

Hope to see some of you at Cadet Duals next year, but be careful. After a week in Orlando, you may not want to go home.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Papa Smurf on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:03 am

Wow, now you're bashing Cozart? He's one of the best coaches in the country and could have the number one team next year. It shows how clueless you are. December is a hotbed of coaching in Colorado, especially during the no contact period. LMAO.

The Babis weren't the whole problem. At least they showed up every week and put in their time. Maybe a lot of you should look in the mirror to evaluate CUSAW's weaknesses.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby SLGator on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:07 am

Papa Smurf wrote:State your name and your coaching credentials and you might actually be taken seriously.


youll be taken as a braggart who thinks they are better than everybody else. we know we are in a mess we dont need one more knowitall full of pride thats the kind of attitude that got us here. everybody is trying to hard to gain respect and credability as a coach instead of working under the radar happy with the satisfaction in their own mind of knowing they made a difference.

real men dont work hard because they are seeking respect...and that is precicesly why they get it.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby kamakazi_yazie on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:12 am

Smurf, You must not have got enough breast milk when you were a baby. Dude you don't need to include your cedentials in every post to get attention. People will read it anyway because they love to laugh. Honestly, you are not all that. I have seen you coach and I have seen you wrestle. I have seen you get thrown out of events for arguing with officials over meaningless calls. By looking at your track recors, I highly doubt you will be in Florida next year. Try Arkansas, I understand that they are getting their programs back.

Name: Kamakazi Yazie
Credentials: Coached my team to a convincing win over a future state champion team (Ralston Valley) yep that's it. nuff said.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Lenny on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:20 am

Smurf be honest. Do you think we give a sh*t what you have to say? You have been in 4-5 states in 4 years? We all know you flaunted your sr world medal. Until we found out you were the only one in the bracket, then you drank mumble stew and couldn't defend it. Do you all remember when Smurf tried to fight Schunke at the board meeting? Then Smurf start throwing I A SUING around?

Watch out here comes gargamel!
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby poppychupo on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:09 pm

Papa Smurf wrote:Wow, now you're bashing Cozart? He's one of the best coaches in the country and could have the number one team next year.


Russ is a cool cat, but even he would admit that Brandon's recruits are so solid that even you couldn't f'em up. Well maybe that's an exageration. I am sure you could f them up.....bad! LMAO!
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Smittyfan on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:57 am

What's happening Papa Smurf? I was hoping you were still in Cali. One of my former wrestlers is coaching in the Lasson area. I wanted you to give him a shout at the State Tourney next year if you didn't see him earlier. Oh well, hope Florida is treating you nice. I like Orlando, but that humidity is prety brutal. I'm recovering from my morning snorkel here on the Island of Women...La Isla Mujeres. A nice little scuba/snorkel/cerveza/mecca near Cancun. Yes, I'm still going back to true paradise (Colorado) after a week. Hasta Luego!
PS, Steve Knight was/is a stud, and when you look at the success we've had at the DI level...much more than Florida last year, you appreciate all the work he did back in the day. Hopefully, Ram and SN can keep the tradition going. IMO, we need Jason Ramstetter and men like him involved in our association. These guys put in a hell of a lot of work for our kids. It must sting to be putting in the time and energy that those guys are giving and not to even get a pat on the back once in a while. Ram probably deserves even more credit than I'm giving Steve Knight, but that's just my opinion...well in the spirit of my vacation, adios amigos.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby happygrappler on Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:05 am

I agree 100%. Rammy is the BOMB!
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby 1RamFan on Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:12 pm

One more question for SN:

Why is Colorado USA Wrestling not registered with the Colorado Secretary of State as a non-profit? http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/chariti ... itable.htm
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Lenny on Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:40 am

1RamFan wrote:One more question for SN:

Why is Colorado USA Wrestling not registered with the Colorado Secretary of State as a non-profit? http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/chariti ... itable.htm


Ask your buddy silver certified "coach" V . He know the answer to this, as I am sure you do.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby 1RamFan on Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:49 pm

Mr. Neitenbach,
Wouldn’t it be prudent to let Mrs. Bruggink know that CUSAW’s IRS Form 990 for 2008 is available for download from http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2008/562/601/2008-562601943-052a7711-9.pdf; but, then again you would have to explain the errors and omissions (http://www.gy.com/biz/541213/303.htm
Neitenbach Scott Cpa 303-541-9433 2299 Pearl St Boulder CO 80302
) from the CUSAW 2007-2008 Budget, to include; but not only:

G. Website: N/A
Part 1: Revenues- Reported: $89,598. Actual Budget 2007-2008: $85,224.91
1: Contributions: Reported: $0. Actual Budget 2007-2008: $5,840.00
3: Membership dues and Assessments: Reported: $0. Actual Budget 2007-2008: $20,395
10: Gross Sales of inventory: Reported: $0. Actual Budget 2007-2008: $3,501.00
Expenses-Reported: $91,100 . Actual Budget 2007-2008: $102,104.60
Part IV: Balance Sheet: Cash on Hand: Reported: $2,338 Actual Budget 2007-2008: $965.53
Inventory for sale or use: Reported: $0.00 Actual Budget 2007-2008: $16,040.00
Part V-A: Current Officers, Directors, Trustees, and key employees:
Scott Neitenbach – Director
(All others omitted)
Part V-B: Former Officers, Directors, Trustees, and key employees:
(All omitted)
Part VI: 80: Is the organization related (other than by association with statewide or nationwide organization) through common membership, governing bodies, trustees, officers, etc., to any other exempt or non-exempt organization: NO (USA Wrestling)
91a: The books are in care of: Rick Lane CPA
Part VII: Analysis of Income – Producing Activities:
94: Membership dues and assessments: Reported: $0 Actual Budget 2007-2008: $20,395.
102: Gross Profit from sales of inventory: Reported: $0. Actual Budget 2007-2008: $ ?

Signed by: Scott Neitenbach, Chairman
Prepared by: Rick Lane, CPA

courtesy of web search:
Scott Neitenbach & Assoc
2539 Spruce Street
Boulder, CO 80302-3806
Phone:(303) 541-9433
Lane Rick Cpa
2539 Spruce St Boulder, CO 80302
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby CrazyCloud on Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:10 pm

Does every lackey that Mo finds talk in the 3rd person about themself?
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Mo Babi on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:30 pm

Crazy Cloud, Lenny, Head Gear and et alia.

Why is it that, whenever anybody brings facts and documentation against Neitenbach and company you people attack the persons that are presenting the facts.

Neitenbach has yet to answer the questions that have been put forth.

Here are few more questions for Neitenbach and CUSAW board.

Is it not a conflict of interest to sell equipment bags to Colorado USA Wrestling by 287 apparel (Owned by Neitenbach) for double the price than that was quoted by All-American Wrestling Supply ($20) and approved unanimously by the CUSAW board directors and then CUSAW sells the bags to the kids for $ 44.95? Why were the kids were charged $110 when the cost of the singlets was $80 a pair?
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby lilpete on Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:49 pm

I did some asking around and I'm glad you posted Mo. I don't know why some posters seem to keep slinging mud, but it is a concern to me why you've never answered for the money that disappeared. From what I was told, some of the people that had the money just before you did are honest men. I'm not saying Scott N. is perfect. I don't know much about this year's situation. But I do know that you shouldn't be on the attack of Scott N. while you have not answered to so many about the money that was never accounted for. I'm talking about the money lost in the accident. What happened to it Mo and if there is nothing to hide, which I hope is true, why haven't you paid it back? You lose some credibility in your complaints in my eyes. I appreciate all you do for us in officiating and congratulations to you for getting the award in Fargo. That's really something to be proud of. But I think if you stayed out politics and just officiated we'd all be better off.
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Lenny on Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:49 am

Good post lilpete. You were diplamatic and complimentary while getting your point across. Very well done. I however, am not so diplamatic. It goes way deeper than a couple grand not returned to the coffers. I would bet that it is closer to 5-6 figures over the years. In fact, if SN will publically confirm this, I bet there is a large surplus of cash reserves even after the expenses of Fargo an duals. Why this year? Expenses and revenues are roughly the same. How come CUSAW never before came through the competition season with reserves? Hmmmmmm

Moe, if you are so hellbent on being a part of this organization, then shut your trap and run in another year when the position is up for election. If not fade off. I will tell you that "Lenny Private eye" has discovered through thorough and detailed investigation that there may be a new sherriff in town. One that, if elected will not let you or your cronies anywhere within a 100 yards of a CUSAW event, meeting or function. Better be nice my friend or your days in the Colorado wrestling community will be numbered. Just saying....
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Lone Wolf on Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:49 pm

Maybe we could get Mo & Scott to throw down to settle this chairman position squabble. We could even get it on the card for CSU-Pueblo & give back to the wrestling community lol
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Re: Questions for Neitenbach from a CUSAW member.

Postby Elbag Nad on Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:56 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:Maybe we could get Mo & Scott to throw down to settle this chairman position squabble. We could even get it on the card for CSU-Pueblo & give back to the wrestling community lol


To make it a fair competition, perhaps a friendly game of cricket??
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